122: How the 5 Archetypes Unlock Leadership Success | Carey Davidson
Can your management style unknowingly create the very problems you're trying to solve?
In this enlightening episode of “The Learn-It-All Leader Podcast,” Carey Davidson introduces the Five Archetypes system, an innovative approach to understanding human behavior and organizational dynamics based on ancient Chinese medicine. Unlike traditional personality assessments that put people in fixed boxes, Davidson’s framework offers a fluid, growth-oriented method for improving leadership, communication, and change management. Through real-world examples and practical applications, she demonstrates how leaders can use this system to break through team dysfunction, enhance presence, and create more harmonious, productive workplace relationships.
What You’ll Learn:
How the Five Archetypes (Fire, Earth, Metal, Water, and Wood) represent different approaches to leadership and problem-solving, each with distinct strengths and potential pitfalls
A powerful case study of how understanding these archetypes helped transform a dysfunctional sales team after traditional consulting had failed for two years
Why your most comfortable leadership behaviors might be creating resistance and disconnection in your team members who lead with different archetypes
Practical techniques for using the system to deliver difficult news, manage change, and maintain innovation under pressure
The critical importance of recognizing when your primary archetype is creating barriers to effective leadership and team harmony
Why current personality assessment tools can limit growth by putting people in fixed categories rather than encouraging adaptability
How to bridge communication gaps between different archetypes, particularly in sales and customer relationships
In This Episode:
(00:00) Introduction to Carey Davidson – Damon introduces Carey and her innovative Five Archetypes framework.
(01:15) The Origin of the Five Archetypes – Carey explains how ancient Chinese medicine inspired her system for understanding human energy and behavior.
(05:30) Breaking Down the Archetypes – Carey introduces the five archetypes: Fire, Earth, Metal, Water, and Wood, and how they interact in individuals and teams.
(09:00) The Power of Growth and Change – Carey discusses why her system focuses on growth rather than labeling, helping people adapt and thrive.
(12:33) Practical Applications in Teams – Carey shares how she has helped organizations use the archetypes to resolve conflicts and improve communication.
(17:00) Building Compassion Through Awareness – Carey emphasizes the role of self-awareness and empathy in reducing judgment and fostering collaboration.
(21:30) Personal and Professional Transformation – Carey provides examples of how understanding archetypes can create harmony and unlock potential.
(33:18) Final Thoughts on the Archetypes – Damon and Carey wrap up with key takeaways for leaders, teams, and individuals looking to embrace change and connection.
About Our Guest:
Carey Davidson is a pioneering leadership expert who developed the Five Archetypes system, transforming ancient Chinese medicine principles into a modern framework for organizational and personal growth. As the former HR leader at Columbia University and Executive Director of CARING at Columbia’s Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, Davidson saw firsthand how traditional personality assessments often failed to create lasting change. This insight led her to found Tournesol Wellness in New York City, where she combined cutting-edge science with time-tested wisdom to create a revolutionary approach to understanding human behavior and relationship dynamics.
The author of The Five Archetypes: Discover Your True Nature and Transform Your Life and Relationships, Davidson has shared her expertise with organizations including Microsoft, Starbucks, Tony Robbins, and Yale University, helping leaders break through entrenched patterns to create more innovative, harmonious, and productive workplaces.
Resources Referenced:
The Five Archetypes: Discover Your True Nature and Transform Your Life and Relationships by Carey Davidson
Doug Conant (mentioned as previous podcast guest)
Take the 5 Archetypes Assessment here.
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